Images show prototype mounted on DT-02 chassis.
Following the success of the “Buggy Champ,” 1980 saw Tamiya release another prominent
figure of the R/C boom, the Holiday Buggy. It featured a simple bathtub design and was
equipped with a low gear ratio and a compact motor making it perfect for those new to
R/C. Also, when compared to the Buggy Champ, it featured a simplier construction which
reduced costs to make it more accessible to the public. This was another famous machine
that attracted many to the exciting world of R/C.
Now, Tamiya is proud to re-release the Holiday Buggy to celebrate its 30th year anniversary.
The Holiday Buggy now comes mounted on the DT-02 chassis which has its battery pack
loaded in the center of the bathtub frame and displays excellent handling performance
even on rough surfaces. R/C fans will definitely rejoice when they see its nostalgic form
and relive the fun and easy-going driving performance of this machine.
About the Item
-This is a 1/10 R/C assembly kit of the special edition Holiday Buggy.
-This item meets ROHS regulations.
-Features the same ribbed front and spike rear tires as the original.
-Newly designed full-body sticker sheet included.
-Blue colored durable polyethylene (PE) body included.
-Comes mounted on the excellent handling 2WD DT-02 chassis.
-Driver figure included.
Hope they will make at least the stance more narrow as the prototype looks very poor in my humble opinion.
Normally not a bad idea to use a modern and reliable chassis type.
But i hope Tamiya will use the original type Holiday Buggy wheels and tires. If they could also adjust the track width to a more original look, it could be a very worthy re-release.
I´ll trust in our favourite company that the final release will look much better then this prototype model.
Yes, another great release, but from the way it look it will be an bad one. Yes I also hope that they will use the original wheels and tires at least. I also hope that they will not use the cut out design on the the body it look bad. As far as the bumper I hope that they use the original as well and not go with the frog or hornet bumper. We as tamiya fans truly hope that they will come out with an better lay-out than this proto-type. We know that they can design great products, but if they go with this plan it will sad !
looks to me like a hoax. There’s no reference mentioned, but a stupid “sample” sign? 🙂
just noticed it’s already on TamiyaUSA, so it must be real.
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58470
Also first thought so, but since also Tamiya USA lists it as DT-02, it can’t be a coincidence.
By the way, we had already some weeks ago the information that 58470 HB would come, but first informations claimed that it would be on the original chassis with black original bumper and RS-380S and only a smaller kitbox, weird how they changed suddenly.
What rubbish is this!?!
Looks entirely like a hoax to me, but if it’s not, what the hell are Tamiya thinking!?!
Retro-hybrids are not the way to go and this stack of crap proves it
Anyway, I’ll go put the kettle on whilst one of you guys go and find out which proper re-release is coming next!?!
Supershot?
Fox?
Wild One?
1976-1986 tamiya produced the best radio controls!! , 1987-1999 still the best!!
2000-2010 tamiya run out the ideas!!
there’re somany kinds of rc car model that can be produced by tamiya co.
but always re-released????? come on…..you can do much better than that!!
This prototype, putting the Holiday Buggy body on a DT-02 chassis, is weird…. I mean, carve up 2 big holes at the front part of the body to accommodate the front damper stand! How ugly!
Sorry, but can´t agree with “Kopipait´s” comment. For sure, Tamiya made great cars through the 1980´s. But to say, they run out of ideas is not OK, IMHO.
Tamiya never produced such a great range of cars and also technical very well engineered cars then now.
First i have to say, they brought back the Tamiya Classics back to the folks with their great re-releases. I have to thank them, because it splits the enthusiasts and fans from the only profit oriented “collectors”. But that´s not enough. They have the best 1/10 scale electric buggy range ever. The DB-01 and a DF-03 for example. They are not only looking good, they are good. Not to speak about the TRF cars. World titels speak for themselves. The new DF-03Ra. Rallye is still there. The new Datsun 240Z body is a blast. The new M-05Ra is coming. You can buy every good looking M-Chassis body at the moment. When i see the HPI 911 Cup Racer body, i think about a joke. One of the biggest disappointments over the last years.
Tamiya´s touring cars were never as good, as at the moment. The TA-05 and TB-03´s are fantastic cars and very good value for money with fantastic new and older bodies available.
And the list goes on. Tamiya brought back the F1 back to life. With the re-release of their F103 chassis and the fantastic new F104. The new Tyrrell sixwheeler is a dream. And i can´t wait for the new Wolf F1. Isn´t it a good idea ?
Does any other manufacturer produce an FF touring car for the masses ? Let´s have a look at the new FF-03. I´m sure it will be a great car.
Or what´s about the new german MAN truck. Bad idea ?
I don´t think so. I´m pretty sure, it will sell very well, as good as the Scania. And why ? It´s simply the best detailed and maybe only kit available.
The High Lift 3-speed trucks. No good idea. Does any other brand produce a similar truck ?
And not to forget. Unimog – Toyota Land Cruiser – Ford Bronco. These are great classic cars. With fantastic (new) detailed bodies, now also available on the CC-01 chassis. And on the technical side, the CR-01 is a piece of art. The new TRF 201. The list goes and on.
We at tamiyablog think, this company can´t barely do more for their customers and fans at the moment.
Thanks dunebuggy for replying exactly what I had in mind, Tamiya’s (and any other company’s) range was never ever so complete and so great. People should try taking of the pink glasses of their childhood, as they make their view very subjective, I know as I also tend to be often “romantic” and “everything was better in my childhood”, but when I try to face the facts the opposite it true, as you said, we now have great classics, great performers, the best of old (sentimental) and new (technical) times! 😎
@dunebuggy:
Hi, I’m a Tamiya fanatic, I collect Tamiya products since 1976 until now (80% of Tamiya RC type).
I learned each of the structure design..
Let’s see…
About CC-01, it released in 1998. (so it’s an old design).
About Hi-lift 3 speed, the body is taken from Toyota Hilux (1990) and juggernaut (1996). The chassis/ gearbox is taken from truck models (1998). which is suspension changes (very hard suspension), you can compare it with Tamiya Bruiser (1986).
About M-05,(the Fiat Arbath/ Honda S 800 body), which already used in M-01/02 chassis.
About TT-01/ DF-03RA, (BMW M3/ Lancia Delta/ Toyota Celica GT4/ Mitsubishi Evo 4/ Evo 5) which already used in TA 01- TA 03.
About CR 01, (Jeep Wrangler) which the body already produced in CC 01 chassis.
About Wild Willy, the body is taken from the similar old model.
About Sand Scorcher/ Buggy Champ, of course that’s the old design.
and now, The Holiday Buggy???
I don’t agree with your opinion about Tamiya Collector/ Enthusiasts/ Fans profit oriented..
You can’t imagine how hard to keep the kits for over 30 years!!! That’s not easy!!! We must appreciate them!!!! and of course The value and the price is change..
I mean for example, how can I get Tamiya models when I was young and now can be easily get by my son??
That’s why my friend, Let’s be objective…
and that’s the reason I said that Tamiya runs out of ideas..
Hopefully Admin can be objective too.
at the end, we are Tamiya Fanatics after all…
Best Regards,
Kopipait.
Hello,
in your response you are talking mainly about bodies, yes, many of those are re-releases, but not because Tamiya has run out of ideas but because the market (that’s you and us) was crying all the time dreaming about them. Also you are talking only about the re-released bodies, while there are so many new on and off road bodies. Here just some new bodies from 2005 till now, that is only in 5 years! (58350-present):
Mercedes-Benz C-Class DTM 2004
Raybrig NSX 2005
Audi A4 DTM 2005 (Finished Body)
Esso Ultraflo Supra 2005
Nismo R34 GT-R Z-Tune
Double Blaze
Suzuki Swift Super 1600
Arta NSX
Dark Impact
Nismo Coppermix Silvia
Sand Viper
Mobil 1 SC
Advance Courage LC70 Mugen (Finished Body)
Ferrari FXX
Vodafone AMG Mercedes C class DTM 2006 (Finished Body)
Keen Hawk
Open Interface Tom’s SC430
Mazda RX-7 FD3S
BMW 320si WTCC 2006 Team Germany
Nismo Coppermix Silvia
Avante Mk. II
Mazda RX-7 Drift Spec
EBBRO BTEC Maziora 350R
Subaru Impreza WRC Monte Carlo ‘07
BMW Z4 M Coupe Racing
Eclipse Advan SC430
DB01 Durga
Dual Hunter
Raybrig NSX 2007
Plasma Edge
Mini Cooper S 2006
Neo Falcon
Nissan Fairlady Z Version Nismo
DB01 Baldre
Toyota Land Cruiser 40
Porsche Cayenne S Transsyberia 2007
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup VIP 2007
Suzuki SX4 WRC
Arta Garaiya
VW Golf GTI Cup Car
Nissan GT-R
Xanavi Nissan GT-R (R35)
Lamborghini Countach LP500S
Mercedes-Benz Unimog 406 Series U900
Toyota Tundra High Lift
Rising Fighter
Subaru Impreza WRC Monte Carlo ’07
NISMO R34 GT-R Z-Tune
Team Repsol Mitsubishi Ralliart Racing Lancer
Porsche 911 GT3 Cupcar Team KTR
Takata NSX 2008
ORC Amemiya SCG-7
Subaru Impreza WRC08
Fiat 500
Mercedes AMG DTM C-Class 2008 Orginal Teile
Calsonic Impul GT-R
Cusco Dunlop Subaru Impreza
Ford Bronco 1973
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
Team Studie GLAD BMW Z4 Hatsune Miku
Fiat Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
Ferrari F60
Corolla Axio apr GT
BMW M3 GT2 2009
Alfa Romeo MiTo
Nissan GT-R R35
Lamborghini Gallardo
Datsun 240Z Rally
MOTUL NISMO GT-R
Then what about the very important chassis types and ranges? Don’t forget that the chassis is the “soul” of the vehicle and takes the most R&D and costs to create, a body can be easily done even by small garage shops 😉 Never ever the range was so complete and that includes ANY RC car manufacturer. Also we shouldn’t forget the great tanks, trucks, statics, mini 4WD and educational toys. Just compare a 1986 (which according to some was the best year) with a current catalogue to see how much wider the range nowadays is. Its so wide that RCs are not listed in the main catalogue anymore. Great performers, sentimental re-releases, new classics like CR01s or the fantastic new lexan classic F1 and the list goes on and on…
Best regards,
Admin
Hello,
Many thanks to the admin for these clear words. I fully agree. Your list of new bodies speaks for itself. I think the Tamiya Company still has some ideas.
Let me say some words about the old NIB kits. I own myself a lot of old NIB Tamiyas classics. So, i know how it is to keep them. I like the cars, the look of the kits, the smell. For some kits, i paid more or less money. But this is not the point. Before the re-releases, especially of the Buggy Champ and Scorcher, those kits and used cars were totally overpriced. You got garbage for hundreds of dollars. But i think a lot of blinded people didn´t saw this anymore. The most new and old hobby enthsusiasts couldn´t afford such a car . I love the re-releases, because EVERYONE can now have a Sand Scorcher – Buggy Champ – Frog – Hot Shot – Hornet – Grasshopper……and a very important point is, i can drive without to destroy hundreds of Euros or Dolllars. And they are great to try alternate paintschemes.
You were right, if Tamiya would only release old cars, but this isn´t the case. The range of new and good looking cars was never so big.
Never before (1980´s or 1990´s) Tamiya produced so much new bodies and chassis variations. You can see them all in the list above.
And what is so bad to re-release bodies like the Jeep Wrangler again ? I don´t understand that. It´s still a great looking car.
Even the Mitsubishi Pajero. I like the Jeep Wrangler. But i don´t want to pay 200 US Dollars and more for a Bodyset. This is still a hobby.
The Wild Willy 2 is still one of my favourite runners. I don´t own an original Wild Willy. And i wouldn´t buy one, because it´s overpriced. And the WW2 is such a good looking car, with a much better chassis.
About the good old days.
Some words about the 3-speed trucks. I own the new High LIft trucks. Isn´t the Tundra a new body ? Maybe you forgot. And the Hilux is still looking good. The people cried for this body. The old 3-speed gearbox was a mess. Ok, it was metal, but be true, it wasn´t that perfect. Always leaking for example. The new gearbox works like a dream. And all in all, new High Lifts are much better than the old 3-speeds. Also the axles are much more robust. And, please try to adjust the suspension, it´s shown in the manual.
IMHO we live in the best time for this great hobby ever ! When you talk in 20 years about the good old days, you will talk about now. 🙂
Best Regards,
Joachim
Kopipait, if you expect others to be objective, you should try being objective yourself, and at least get the facts right:
The CC-01 was released in 1993, not 1998
With regards to the Hi-Lift, if you argue that bodies are reused, the basic Hilux design isn’t from 1990, it’s from 1981 (first Hilux), 1985 (Bruiser, not 1986, like you claim) or 1992 (Mountaineer). However, the improvements made for the Hi-Lift version are so great, that it can pretty much be considered a new body, even if the basic moldings are very similar.
The same goes for the F350, which was massively improved for the Hi-Lift, and also, the Juggernaut wasn’t released in 1996. It was released in 1999.
Similarly, the truck models, with which the Hi-Lift admittedly share som similarities, were first launched in 1993, not 1998 like you claim.
Furthermore, arguing that the Hi-Lift suspension is “very hard” when compared to the Bruiser is really strange. Yes, an old Bruiser with saggy springs may be softer than a new Hi-Lift, but comparing the two spring designs when new, the Hi-Lift is certainly softer, and the Hi-Lift design has much less weaknesses than the Bruiser chassis design. Anyone who has run both quite a lot, will know that the Hi-Lift’s durability is much better. OK, so the frame design is less realistic, but don’t the much better bodies more than compensate for that? I mean, when running, I see a lot more of the tops of my models than the bottoms!
As for the CR-01, you argue that the Wrangler body was used for the CC-01, which of course is true, but again, it was somewhat improved for the CR-01, and more important, why focus on the single body that was (thankfully!) recycled for the CR-01 instead of thinking of the absolutely stunning three other bodies that are offered for the CR-01, and which were brand new designs?
As for the Wild Willy 2 body, yes it’s of course a modified version of the original Wild Willy body, but then again, would a Wild Willy 2 with anything else than a Wild Willy body be sensible? The body itself is the actual reason for the existence of the WR-02 chassis in the first place!
I partially agree with you though that there are many Tamiya collectors/enthusiasts/fans out there who aren’t profit oriented, but then again, neither Dunebuggy, nor anyone else here have ever claimed that all are profit oriented. On the other side, there are enough people out there who consider themselves to be enthusiasts, but where the focus is the monetary value of their collections (or “investments”), more than the genuine fascination for Tamiya. Let’s face it, some people feel the need to brag, either with their car, their watch or other status symbols, or in case of Tamiya, with the sheer size of their “collections”, rather than real enthusiasm, knowledge and skills.
You claim that it’s “hard” to keep the kits for over 30 years, and I can’t at all follow you. I’ve been collecting plastic model kits for 35+ years and Tamiya since 1976, and it has never been hard for me. Tamiya has been my fulltime job and my hobby for decades, but it’s always been enjoyable, never hard! What would be “hard” about that? For the majority of human beings, life itself is hard. Having the privilege of being able to collect models is a fairly easy part of life.
Claiming that Tamiya has run out of ideas is pretty harsh. In the “old” days, Tamiya used each chassis design for very few different bodies, and as such, new chassis designs were released rather often. Meanwhile, Tamiya has a lot more knowledge and is capable of creating chassis designs that are successful in the market for many years without being massively outdated. For example, the CC-01 is an almost 20 years old design, and it has its flaws, but is still a very good and durable design for its intended use. So, the same design is still successfully used, allowing Tamiya to release new bodies on it, and more important, instead of replacing a weak design every second year or more often, like they did in the early years, they can now instead focus on other niches, like the CR-01, the F104/F104W, world class 2WD and 4WD racing buggies and touring cars, re-releases of old loved models and a faster and broader stream of new static models than Tamiya has ever before had in their entire history.
Hello,
The new body lists that mentioned by the Admin are “run out of ideas” for me.
We have to compare with other RC model manufactures, such as Yokomo, HPI, ABC Hobbies, Axial, Proline,etc. Eventhough they can’t make as detail as Tamiya made, but there’re somany new interesting body models they can offer. This is what makes me dissappoint as Tamiya fanatic.
I personally can not say that the chassis performance was the best by tamiya, I had to spend quite a bit to buy the optional order to enhance performance, it also proves there are still many deficiencies that must be addressed.
we should remember that due to high demand on the previous models so that tamiya should re-released the old design. it’s a fact!
About what Miramar’s comment, show us that the released years are even older than I mentioned before, and most of Tamiya fans still likes the old models.
Tamiya is a big company, I think Tamiya can make other RC models from original greatest cars in the world (there’re somany cars model can be made), that’s more interesting just like other companies produced.
For me. it’s not attractive anymore..
it’s easy to talk that “it’s not hard to keep for over 30 years and still nib’, I don’t think you would save and sell again your RC collection with a low price in a later years.
once again, I am a Tamiya fanatic, not other brands!!
You mention HPI, ABC, Axial, Proline etc. as companies that release more interesting bodies than Tamiya does, and as a “proof” that Tamiya has run out of ideas. I can’t leave that statement uncommented:
Yokomo: How can Yokomo bodies be used as an argument against Tamiya bodies? For drift-enthusiasts, Yokomo may have a more interesting selection of bodies than Tamiya, but the rest of the range consists of a
few touring bodies that are hardly more interesting than Tamiya’s vast range of touring bodies, technically inferior and models of cars that Tamiya also makes. And then Yokomo have some competition buggy bodies and
crawler bodies of fantasy vehicles (without any fullsize counterpart), with a selection and quality that can’t at all be compared to Tamiya’s re-release bodies or new body designs of the recent years. Preferences is a subject of personal taste, but if you like Yokomo buggy and crawler bodies better than Tamiya’s TRF buggy bodies and CR-01 bodies, I would suggest swapping brands.
HPI: Apart from the 911RSR and BMW 2002, HPI has hardly released any new bodies the last 10 years or so, which are more revolutionary choices than Tamiya’s new releases during the same time. Also, the Tamiya TTG 934 and 935 are both a lot better looking, more precise and has better proportions than HPI’s 911RSR, and for a Tamiya enthusiast like yourself, the 934 and 935 surely hold a lot more nostalgic value than the 911RSR?
ABC: Yes, admittedly, ABC has released a lot of interesting bodies the last few years, and with much better quality than early ABC Touring and M-bodies. But then again, ABC is a very small company compared to Tamiya, and can afford to concentrate fully on a relatively small niche in the market, whereas Tamiya mainly has to please a large crowd, but they still release a lot of niche products.
Axial: How can Axial bodies be used as an argument against Tamiya bodies? Axial doesn’t have a single even remotely realistic body, and mold quality is so far behind that even if they would release realistic bodies of interesting cars, most people would still prefer Tamiya quality, even if
it meant “dull” cars.
Proline: Proline is also a tiny company compared to Tamiya and as such they are catering for niche markets. They admittedly have made some interesting choices for new truck and crawler bodies, but hardly any of them are worthy of being placed on a Tamiya model. I have bought several of the new Proline bodies myself, including using their Chevy Pickup body for my “Budget Blazer” presented on Tamiyablog in the past, but I would much rather have the Tamiya Unimog, Landcruiser or Bronco body than any of the pretty crude truck/crawler bodies from Proline. As for touring bodies, Proline/Protoform definitely make some bodies that are very suitable for racing and successfull too, but none of them are really scale bodies.
And can you mention any single company that has released as many great hard-plastic bodies as Tamiya during the last 10+ years?
You are also arguing that “I personally can not say that the chassis performance was the best by tamiya, I had to spend quite a bit to buy the optional order to enhance performance, it also proves there are still many deficiencies that must be addressed.”
OK, so not every single Tamiya chassis is a winner out of the box, but what about the early models? At least the current models are with extremely few exceptions fully capable and durable in stock form, whereas the majority of old models had major flaws. The old models are surely charming, but performance and durability are vastly inferior to any current model. Many of them weren’t even really good for their time. Compare the Hotshot series to the Kyosho Optima series (from the same
period), and it’s clear that the Hotshot series’ performance and durability was a lot behind Kyosho. Today, Tamiya can compete with even the most specialised competition models in virtually any class.
You also mention the “high demand on the previous models so that tamiya should re-released the old design. it’s a fact!”
How do you know? Tamiya has been very successfull and profitable for decades. Don’t you think they have to be good at market research and marketing to achieve that? Don’t you think that Tamiya as a global company knows a lot better what the majority of the market wants than a single enthusiast or even a small enthusiast community? Also, don’t forget that Japan has been and remains Tamiya’s by far largest market. And don’t you think that Tamiya would have reconsidered and changed their strategy at least once during the last 10 years or so, if their strategy was as bad and unsuccessfull as you claim? Furthermore, how can anybody complain about lack of re-releases? Most companies don’t re-release any models at all, whereas Tamiya has re-released masses of models since they started with re-releases in 2000.
When it comes to my corrections of the release dates you mentioned in a previous post, it confirmes that some releases are older than you claimed, and it also confirmed that your claims about release dates were completely wrong. Why state something that’s entirely wrong, and how can a longtime
enthusiast like yourself be so incorrect on basic information? Furthermore, how on earth can you use the release years of a few models as an argument that Tamiya fans like old models? Where would the logic in that argument be?
You also argue that Tamiya as a big company “can make other RC models from original greatest cars in the world”. That’s definitely exactly what they do. OK, so because they don’t release models of your personal favourite cars “it’s not attractive anymore..” But again, don’t you think Tamiya
considers what models to release to sell well? If their choices were completely random and without regard to what the market would absorb, how can their decades of success be explained? You just have to face that your personal favourites (or even the favourites of a collectors’ community) doesn’t necessarily reflect what the majority of the market wants. I too would love to see certain models released because they hold a personal value to me, but I’m realistic enough to see that Tamiya can’t possibly focus on me as a single customer.
You also state; “it’s easy to talk that “it’s not hard to keep for over 30 years and still nib’, I don’t think you would save and sell again your RC collection with a low price in a later years.”
What do you mean? I know what I talk about when I say it’s easy. I’m not just claiming it out of the blue. I’ve been collecting Tamiya models since 1976 too, and NIB kits since the early ’80’s, and it has never been hard. Only to some extent, the space required to store them has been a slight problem. I don’t care at all about the monetary value, as it isn’t at all an argument for me. I collect for my own personal pleasure, not as an investment or as a mean of bragging about value or size of the collection. Most re-releases have had a “negative” impact on the monetary value of the originals, but for someone like myself that have no intention of ever selling, I don’t care that the monetary value of my collection my dropw. Even if the monetary value would drop to zero, I would still cherish the models as much as before. So, I’m only happy for any re-release, both for myself and for other enthusiasts out there, that unlike myself may have sold some of or all their original models at some time, and regretted. I’ve been fortunate enough to be able to keep all the models I have wanted all the time and storing the NIB’s in the same safe place (my parents’ home) since the early ’80’s, and whether you believe it or not, it’s been very easy.
@miramar
even i’m tamiya fanatic,i won’t say that all of tamiya rc design or models are exellent! it’s exagerating! in my opinion ,the best tamiya rc product is 1976-2000 released.
thank you.
For me subjectively the most boring/less creative period for Tamiya RC was approximately the decade 1994-2004 as it was dominated by touring cars (which weren’t even great performers or successful in racing), glad that time was over after then with the great re-releases, new classics, new off roaders and TRF cars. The last 5 years were like a dream for me 🙂
Regards,
Admin
God i hope this is not for real,fance doing this to that car..why didnt they just use the old chassis.
I agree with the above comments by Miramar, Dunebuggy and admin about the current variety of Tamiya RC range of products.
About the HB2010, what a betrayal! For me, this is no re-release at all, this is only a cheap adapt-as-you-can disgusting thing.
For me, a model as a kind of “soul” brought both by the chassis and the body. The general look, the chassis behavior and even its flaws are part of what makes a model. Especially for the 80’s models that sometimes featured “radical” designs.
As seen on the photos (which are probably not the definitive model), they just sat the body on a a Super Fighter G chassis. It’s sat way too high and anti-realisticly. Worse, the suspension travel on DT-02 is pretty important, somewhat at the exact opposite of what the original chassis could offer.
A Holiday Buggy is meant to behave badly and this is part of its charm. On a DT-02 chassis, it will just be a nice body fooling around with no interest. This body and this chassis are not meant to be used the same way and for me, there are not compatible.
It the re-release program was meant to go that way, why didn’t they re-release the Hotshot on a DF-03 chassis? It handles much better than a Hotshot, it’s cheaper to produce and much easier for electronics access. Well, they did that mistake already when re-using the Avante name to make that infamous Avante MkII…
arnt all prototypyes a bit wierd looking,,,,,,should be on the original chassis with improvements …. bring on the sand rover ……. ford ranger …… and a lambo cheetta for good measure …